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@packlist_pen ·

Base weight stuck at 8.4kg and I can't see what else to cut Shakedown

Three season UK hills, usually four nights. 8.4kg base: 1.9kg tent (two-person, used solo), 1.4kg pack, 1.1kg sleeping bag, 550g mat, 480g stove kit with a 1.2L pot, 900g of clothing including a fleece and a hardshell, rest is odds and ends. I've already dropped the camp chair and a second pot. Where is the weight actually hiding?

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  • @onebag_ozzy · 4mo ago · 3 replies

    Your big three are 4.4kg of an 8.4kg base and that's where the whole answer lives. Nothing you do with odds and ends competes with one change there.

    In order of weight saved per pound spent:

    • The pack. 1.4kg for a load that will never exceed about 12kg total is a heavy pack carrying nothing. A 900g lightly framed pack is comfortable at that weight.
    • The tent. A one-person trekking pole shelter at 700-900g saves a full kilo, but only if you already walk with poles.
    • The stove kit. 480g with a 1.2L pot for solo is at least 200g of pot. A 650ml titanium mug and a small canister stove is around 200g total.

    That's 1.7kg without touching your sleep system, which at 1.1kg plus 550g is already reasonable. Also weigh the odds and ends individually and post the list, because that's where people find 400g they'd forgotten about.

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    • @packlist_pen · 4mo ago

      Weighed everything separately and the odds and ends came to 1.6kg, including a 210g first aid kit that is mostly packaging.

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    • @weatherfront_wu · 4mo ago

      The first aid repack is the classic one. Mine went from 240g to 80g by binning the box and putting the actual contents in a small zip bag.

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  • @carryon_cass · 4mo ago

    Before spending anything: 900g of clothing for three season UK is reasonable, but check whether it's the right 900g. A fleece plus a hardshell with no wind layer means you wear the shell for wind and get clammy. A 90g windshirt often replaces the fleece's daytime job and half the shell's.

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  • @negativesplitz · 4mo ago · 3 replies

    8.4kg is already decent and the last kilo costs more than the first three did. If the pack is comfortable and you enjoy the trips, the honest advice is to spend on pack fit rather than chase a number.

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    • @negativesplitz · 4mo ago

      Then it's definitely the pack. A 1.4kg pack that's uncomfortable at 16kg is the worst of both worlds, you're paying the weight penalty of a frame without getting the benefit.

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    • @packlist_pen · 4mo ago

      Fair, and I do enjoy them. It's that four nights of food on top puts me near 16kg and that's where my shoulders start complaining.

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  • @dart_doctor · 4mo ago

    Solo in a two-person tent is a kilo of comfort you might genuinely want in UK weather when you're stuck inside for an afternoon. Decide that one on purpose rather than because it's the heaviest line on a spreadsheet.

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