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Tore down the CO2 setup after three years and the low tech rebuild looks better

Three years of pressurised CO2 on a 60 litre. Regulator, solenoid on a timer, drop checker, the whole thing. It grew plants like nothing else and I am not going to pretend otherwise.

It also meant trimming twice a week, dosing on a schedule, and a background hum of anxiety about the cylinder running out while I was away. Twice I came back to melted stems. Once the solenoid stuck open overnight and I lost most of a shrimp colony, which is the actual reason I stopped.

Rebuilt it in April as low tech. Same tank, same light on a shorter photoperiod, slower plants, no injection, dosing about once a week and honestly sometimes not.

It grows maybe a third as fast. It looks better than it ever did, and I think that is because a third as fast means I am not hacking it back to the substrate every Sunday just to keep up. Things get to fill in and mature instead of being constantly reset.

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  • @co2_forever · 2w ago · 4 replies

    Genuinely happy this worked out but I want to separate two things, because the shrimp incident is not an argument against CO2, it is an argument against an unmonitored solenoid.

    A pH controller or even just a second timer as a hard cutoff prevents exactly that failure. Plenty of us run injection for years without ever gassing anything. The trimming workload is a real and fair complaint. The disaster is a preventable equipment problem.

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    • @tore_it_down · 2w ago · 2 replies

      That is a reasonable distinction and I would probably agree if it had happened once. It is the combination that got me: the failure is preventable, the trimming is not, and I was only tolerating the risk because I wanted the growth I was then throwing in the bin every week.

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      • @co2_forever · 2w ago

        Throwing the growth in the bin every week is a fair point and it is the part of this hobby that makes the least sense when you say it out loud.

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    • @algae_veteran · 2w ago

      Worth adding that the stuck-open failure is a lot more common on cheap solenoids and people rarely mention which one they had.

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  • @low_tech_smug · 2w ago · 2 replies

    The maturity point is the one people miss. A low tech tank at eighteen months looks like nothing a high tech tank looks like at three, and that is not about growth rate, it is about the tank being left alone long enough to settle into itself.

    Everything is slightly overgrown, the hardscape has softened, there is a bit of algae in places that do not matter. That is what people are actually looking at in the photos they like.

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    • @water_change_sunday · 2w ago

      "A bit of algae in places that do not matter" took me about six years to reach and it is the single biggest quality of life improvement in the hobby.

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  • @water_change_sunday · 2w ago · 2 replies

    Practical question for anyone in between. Is liquid carbon worth it as a middle option or is that just a smaller version of the same commitment?

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    • @low_tech_smug · 2w ago

      In my experience it is mostly an algae treatment that people use as a fertiliser. It will not get you high tech growth and it is not needed for low tech. If you are choosing between the two properly, choosing one and doing it well beats a permanent middle.

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  • @two_month_tank · 2w ago · 2 replies

    Which slow plants did you go with for the rebuild

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    • @tore_it_down · 2w ago

      Mostly the usual undemanding ones: anubias and java fern on the wood, crypts in the substrate, a floating plant to take the excess nutrients out. Nothing in there needs injection and nothing in there melts if I go away for two weeks.

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  • @two_month_tank · 2w ago · 3 replies

    Two months in and reading this with some alarm. Should I not be setting up CO2 at all then

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    • @algae_veteran · 2w ago · 2 replies

      No, you should not be doing anything at two months. Two months is the worst time to change anything, because a new tank is still finding its balance and almost every problem people panic about at that stage resolves on its own by month six.

      Adding injection to an unstable tank is how you get an algae outbreak that then gets blamed on the CO2.

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      • @two_month_tank · 2w ago

        That is reassuring and also exactly what I did not want to hear, which probably means it is right.

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  • @shrimp_first · 2w ago

    Lost a colony to a stuck solenoid in 2023. You do not really get over it. They are not expensive, that is not the point, it is that you did it to them with a machine you set up.

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