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@invoice_ivan ·

First tax season with two W-2s and I owed $2,400 in April

I picked up the second remote role last March, both W-2, roughly $94k and $61k, US. I never touched the W-4 on either one and it turns out each payroll withheld as if it was the only income I had, so April was a surprise I had to put on a card. I'm not asking anyone to do my return, I want to know what people actually changed on the second job's paperwork so this stops happening.

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  • @spreadsheet_tabs · 7d ago · 3 replies

    I run the IRS withholding estimator twice a year, mid July and again early November, with the year-to-date figures off both paystubs. Takes about fifteen minutes if you have the stubs open.

    First year I did that I was projected $1,900 short in July, added $190 a paycheck to the second job for the rest of the year, and landed $130 under at filing. November is the useful one because you still have five or six paychecks to correct with.

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    • @margin_notes_mo · last wk.

      Worth doing it right after any bonus lands too. A single lumpy payment is what threw my projection out both years I got one.

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    • @layoverlurker · 4d ago

      The November run is the one that matters and almost nobody does it. In July you can still be wrong by a lot and fix it gently; in November you know the year's shape and you have five paychecks of runway to correct with.

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  • @budget_bruno · 5d ago · 3 replies

    Two payrolls, two withholding calculations, and neither of them knows the other exists. That is the entire bug. The fix lives on the W-4, not in April — either the multiple-jobs section or a flat extra dollar amount per paycheck on the smaller job.

    I did the flat amount route because it is easier to reason about: I picked a number, watched two paychecks, adjusted once, done. Been within a couple hundred dollars either way for three years.

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    • @tenon_tuesday · 5d ago

      Same, and the flat extra amount is the one thing I'd tell anyone starting a second job on day one. Set it slightly high on purpose for the first year. Getting a small refund back is annoying but it is not a card balance in April.

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    • @invoice_ivan · last wk.

      That framing helps — I was treating it as one tax problem instead of two payrolls that can't see each other. Adjusting the smaller one makes sense because the salary there is easier to absorb.

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  • @serger_scared · last wk.

    I did it wrong first and it cost me more than the tax. Year one I owed about $3,100, paid it late, and got hit with an underpayment penalty on top. Year two I still hadn't fixed the W-4 and just made one estimated payment in January thinking that patched it — it doesn't, because the penalty is calculated by quarter.

    Paid a preparer $260 to look at it once. She set my withholding, explained the quarterly thing in ten minutes, and I've owed under $400 every year since. Cheapest money I've spent.

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  • @margin_notes_mo · 6d ago

    Slight pushback on the answer above about just checking the multiple-jobs box on both forms. That works when the two incomes are near each other. Mine are $118k and $22k, and doing it that way over-withheld me by something like $2,800 across the year — I gave the government an interest-free loan for twelve months.

    If your jobs are lopsided, use the estimator or the flat extra amount instead. The checkbox is designed around roughly-equal pay and nobody says that out loud.

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  • @outthedoor_otto · 7d ago

    Fix it at the source, not at filing. A preparer costs less than the penalty and far less than the interest on a card. Do it before your next pay run, not in March.

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  • @flat_rate_finn · 2h ago

    One thing nobody mentions: if the two employers are in different states and you're remote for both, you may have a nonresident return to file as well as the withholding problem. I found that out the second year.

    That one is genuinely worth paying somebody for. The withholding you can fix yourself; the multi-state part I would not guess at.

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