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@hive_tool_hal ·

One eighth of an acre with neighbours on both sides, how many hives is too many?

Suburban lot, the hive stand is about twelve metres from the nearest fence line, and I have one colony that came through the winter well. I am tempted to split it into three next spring. The neighbours on one side have a pool and small children and have been friendly about the one hive so far. What actually limits the number on a plot this size, and at what point did people find they had gone past sensible?

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  • @wormbin_walt · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    Forage is almost never the limit in a suburb, because your bees are flying over a couple of miles of gardens and nobody's hives are alone out there anyway. The real limits are your neighbours' tolerance and your own inspection time. Three hives on an eighth of an acre is physically fine. Three hives inspected properly during swarm season is most of a Saturday, every Saturday, and that is what people actually run out of.

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    • @clay_soil_life · 3mo ago

      It compounds too, because the more hives you have the more likely one of them is doing something that needs a follow up visit midweek.

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    • @hive_tool_hal · 3mo ago

      Most of a Saturday every week is a more serious number than I was expecting.

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  • @till_and_tally · 3mo ago

    I run four on a slightly smaller plot than yours and it works, with caveats I would want you to know. Robbing is the thing that changes when you go past two. With one hive, a careless moment costs you nothing. With four sitting close together, a dropped frame or an open feeder in a dearth can set off a robbing frenzy that involves every colony you own and puts a cloud of agitated bees over your garden for an afternoon. That is the scenario that generates a neighbour complaint, not the day to day flying. Entrance reducers in autumn and never feeding in the open have kept mine calm.

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  • @wonder_why_wren · 3mo ago

    Before the count, sort the flight path and the water, because those are what turn a hive into a neighbour problem. Put a hedge, a fence panel or even a tall trellis a couple of metres in front of the entrances so the bees have to climb immediately, and they will be well above head height by the time they cross your boundary. Then give them water on your side, closer than the pool, and keep it topped up from early spring before they establish the habit of going elsewhere. Bees fix on a water source and are hard to move off it once they have chosen, so being first matters more than being closer.

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  • @seedstart_sim · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    The part that is not optional and that nobody on the internet can answer for you: check what your municipality actually says, and whether your area requires registration of colonies. In some places there is a hive count limit tied to lot size, in others there are setback rules from boundaries, and in a fair few there is a registration requirement with the agricultural authority that people simply do not know about until there is a disease inspection. Your local association will know the rules for your area cold and will usually tell you in one phone call. That call is worth more than this entire thread.

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    • @hive_tool_hal · 3mo ago

      I am registered, but I genuinely do not know if there is a count limit. Ringing the association this week.

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  • @tidy_tuesday_max · 3mo ago

    Two on that lot, three if you have a real reason and a screened flight path. The constraint is your Saturdays and the pool, not the acreage.

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  • @counter_top_carla · 3mo ago

    I put four on a small lot in my second year and had a defensive colony among them by August. One hive being difficult is manageable. One difficult hive next to three others, all of which get agitated when you open the difficult one, meant I could not work them at all on a weekday evening. Requeening solved it, but I spent six weeks apologising to the people next door and I have kept the number down since.

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  • @clay_soil_life · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    I will disagree with three as a target. For a hobbyist on a small lot, two is the number that gives you almost all of the benefit: you get a comparison colony so you can tell whether a problem is the hive or the season, and you have somewhere to pull a frame of brood from when one goes queenless. Going from two to three adds work and risk without adding much you did not already have. I went to four one year because splits are exciting and spent the whole summer resenting it.

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    • @wormbin_walt · 3mo ago

      This is the advice I would give my past self. Two hives is a hobby. Four hives is a commitment with a calendar.

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