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@hem_and_haw ·

Third toaster in six years, which categories still have a genuinely long lived option and which are hopeless

I am happy to pay three times the price for something that lasts three times as long, but I keep getting burned by premium versions of the same disposable object. Extended warranties are already ruled out, I have never once had one pay out usefully. I am after category level answers: where does spending more actually buy longevity and where is it purely branding.

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  • @shopvac_ghost · 5mo ago · 3 replies

    I repair small appliances for a living and the single best predictor is whether the manufacturer publishes an exploded parts diagram and sells the parts. That one test sorts the market better than price does. What actually fails, in order, is control boards, pumps, and bearings, and every one of those is repairable in principle and unrepairable in practice when the part is unavailable or the housing is glued rather than screwed. Turn the thing over in the shop: visible screws and a model number that returns parts results is worth more than any marketing about steel.

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    • @shopvac_ghost · 5mo ago

      Anything cheap with a heating element and a circuit board, so toasters and kettles at the low end. Motors and mechanical things are still repairable, electronics with no board level support are not.

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    • @hem_and_haw · 5mo ago

      The glued versus screwed test is something I can actually do in a shop. What are the worst categories in your experience?

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  • @wonder_why_wren · 5mo ago

    The categories that still reward spending more, from things in my house that are old and still working: cast iron and carbon steel pans, hand tools, a mechanical kettle with no electronics, sewing machines, and anything with a real motor that is serviced. The hopeless ones are cheap toasters, most electric kettles, printers, and anything where the value is in a screen or an app. I have a stand mixer past the twenty year mark, and the honest caveat is that it needed one repair and I could only do it because the gears are still sold.

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  • @cors_error_cleo · 5mo ago · 2 replies

    Some pushback on the everything used to last framing. My grandmother replaced a washing machine roughly as often as I do, they used far more water and electricity, and half the objects people cite as evidence are simply the survivors, because the ones that failed in 1974 were thrown away and are not in anyone's kitchen to be photographed. Efficiency rules also forced complexity into appliances that genuinely did not exist before. Some of it is real decline, and quite a lot of it is memory.

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    • @yamlfatigue · 5mo ago

      Both things are true though. Survivorship is real and so is glued construction that makes an eight pound repair impossible.

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  • @endpaper_eli · 5mo ago

    My expensive mistake was paying a large premium for a heritage brand that had been bought and turned into a licensing arrangement, so the name on the box and the factory behind it had nothing to do with each other. It failed in under two years. Now I check whether the company still manufactures rather than licenses, and where, before I look at the price.

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  • @skillet_sara · 5mo ago

    Buy the one with a published parts diagram. If you cannot buy a replacement switch for it, it is disposable no matter what it costs.

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