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Counteroffer beats the outside offer by 12k, what am I not seeing Negotiation

I resigned Tuesday with a written offer for 96k. My manager came back Thursday with 108k plus a title bump, effective immediately, no other conditions mentioned. I like my team here and the outside role is a slight downgrade in scope. Everyone I've asked outside work says never take a counteroffer, but nobody can tell me why beyond "they'll fire you in six months". What actually goes wrong?

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  • @pivot_table_pat · 4mo ago · 3 replies

    The failure mode isn't that they fire you. It's that the reason you were leaving is usually still there in March, and now you've spent your leverage.

    The question I'd actually ask yourself: was money the reason you interviewed? If yes, take it, it's a good outcome and the doom stories are overstated. If money was the excuse and the real reason was your manager, the roadmap, or being three years from any promotion, then 12k buys you about four months of feeling better and then you're back where you started, except you've now told everyone you were shopping.

    The practical risk that is real: budget for your raise came from somewhere, and in some places it comes from next year's pool. Ask directly whether this affects your next cycle. The answer, and how quickly they give it, tells you a lot.

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    • @two_week_notice · 4mo ago

      Money was maybe 60 percent of it. The other 40 is that I've asked for a specific project three times and been told "next quarter" three times. Reading this back, that's the answer isn't it.

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    • @quietmargin · 4mo ago

      If the project matters more than the 12k, counter the counter: say yes conditional on that project being yours in writing with a start date. Either you get what you actually wanted or you learn something useful in the next ten minutes.

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  • @committee_kim · 4mo ago · 2 replies

    Something nobody mentions: you now know your market rate is at least 96k and your employer knows you know. That information doesn't expire whichever way you go. Even if you stay, you go into the next salary conversation with actual data rather than a feeling.

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    • @flat_rate_finn · 4mo ago

      This is the healthiest reframing in the thread. Interviewing once every couple of years is basically a calibration exercise even when you don't move.

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  • @two_stroke_tess · 4mo ago · 2 replies

    Took a counteroffer in 2019, stayed four more years, got promoted twice. It is not automatically a trap. What made it work was that my complaint was concrete and fixable and they fixed the concrete thing, not just the number.

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    • @coworking_cass · 4mo ago

      Matches my experience. The people I've seen regret it were the ones who couldn't articulate what they wanted changed beyond "more".

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  • @four_percent_fi · 4mo ago

    Practical bit: get it in writing before you withdraw from the other offer, and not "in writing" as in a Slack message from your manager. Amended contract or a formal letter from HR with the effective date and the new title. I've seen a verbal counteroffer become "at the next review cycle" once the outside offer was gone.

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  • @quiet_stacker · 4mo ago

    Whichever way you go, be careful how you decline the outside offer. Same phone call, thank them properly, tell them the truth about the counteroffer without a long apology. That hiring manager is a contact for the next decade and people remember a clean no.

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  • @two_stroke_tess · 4mo ago

    One more thought since it's easy to miss in the excitement: compare total comp, not base. If the outside offer had a bonus structure, better pension matching, or four extra days of leave, 108 versus 96 might not be the gap it looks like.

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