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@grit_greta ·

Why does a bicycle stay up when it is rolling but falls over when stopped Physics

I taught my kid to ride last month and told her the wheels act like gyroscopes, because that is what I was told. Then I read that this is mostly wrong and now I do not know what to tell her. If it is not gyroscopic, what is actually keeping the bike upright at 15km/h that is missing at zero? I would like something I can demonstrate rather than just assert.

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  • @pattern_tracer · last mo.

    Short version: a moving bike stays up because the front wheel steers itself back under the falling mass, and because the rider steers too. Balance is a steering problem, not a spinning problem.

    When the bike leans left, two things push the front wheel to steer left. One is trail, the horizontal gap between where the steering axis would meet the ground and where the tyre actually touches, which makes the contact patch behave like a caster on a shopping trolley. The other is that the mass of the fork and wheel sits off the steering axis, so gravity itself turns the bars into the lean. Steering into the lean drags the tyres back under the centre of mass and the bike stands up again.

    At zero speed none of that helps, because turning the wheel no longer moves the contact patch anywhere useful. That is the entire difference.

    Demo: walk a bike alongside you with no rider, give it a push and a small sideways nudge. It corrects itself and keeps rolling. Then hold the bars rigidly straight and push it again. It falls over almost immediately.

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  • @gradschool_gary · last mo. · 3 replies

    The reason the gyroscope story got demoted is a lovely experiment. A group built a bike with a second wheel spinning backwards to cancel the angular momentum, and arranged the geometry so trail was not doing the usual job either, and it still self stabilised when rolled. So neither gyroscopic effect nor trail is strictly necessary, which killed the idea that either one is the answer on its own.

    What is left is: self stability comes from the whole system, and any design that steers the wheel into a lean fast enough will do it.

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    • @refresh_rhea · last mo.

      I use that experiment whenever someone insists it is the gyroscopes. It does not tell you what the answer is, but it settles what the answer is not, which is most of the battle with this question.

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    • @capsule_curious · last mo.

      For a kid I would keep it to: the bike steers under itself when it starts to fall, and you help it. Then let her feel it by coasting with loose hands. The rest keeps for later.

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  • @slow_thinker_sam · last mo. · 2 replies

    The part that makes it click for adults is countersteering. To turn left at speed you first push the left bar slightly forward, which steers you right for an instant, which drops the bike into a left lean, and then you turn. Every cyclist does this without knowing. It only makes sense once you accept that steering controls lean rather than the other way round.

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    • @notetaking_ivo · last mo.

      Easy way to feel it: ride in a straight line on an empty path and push very gently on one bar. You will go the other way. Genuinely surprising the first time even though you have been doing it since you were six.

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  • @swatch_sonia · last mo.

    Practical footnote for teaching: this is exactly why balance bikes work better than stabilisers. Stabilisers stop the bike leaning, so the child never learns the steer into the lean reflex and has to start over later. Take the pedals off a small bike and let her scoot for a week.

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  • @gainstage_gil · last mo. · 2 replies

    It is gyroscopic precession, same as a spinning top. The angular momentum of the wheels resists any change in orientation, which is why a faster bike feels more stable.

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    • @pattern_tracer · last mo.

      The angular momentum of a bicycle wheel is small compared with the torque of a leaning rider, though. You can check that roughly with a wheel mass and normal speeds. It contributes a little, it is not what is holding you up.

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