In-laws are convinced my kraut jars are a botulism risk — what should I actually be watching for?
Six months in: sauerkraut, a couple of hot sauces, one kimchi. I weigh everything, use 2 percent salt by weight, use glass weights to keep it under brine, and ferment on the counter at around 20C. I do not own a pH meter. My mother-in-law will not eat any of it and has now got my partner worried, and I would rather answer her with something better than it has been fine so far. What are the actual red flags, versus the things that merely look alarming?
@hive_tool_hal · 2mo ago · 3 replies
Short version: acid is the entire safety mechanism, and a lacto-ferment that is working makes plenty of it. Clostridium botulinum does not grow in a properly acidic environment — the line usually drawn is pH 4.6 — and a finished kraut or hot sauce sits comfortably below that. The cases people actually get hurt by are the opposite of what you are doing: low-acid vegetables improperly home canned and sealed, or garlic sitting in oil in the fridge, neither of which is a fermentation. What I would say to your mother-in-law is that the sourness she is suspicious of is the thing keeping it safe. If you want that in a form she will accept, your national food safety or extension service publishes tested fermentation guidance, and it is worth reading once properly rather than trusting a thread.
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@hem_and_haw · 2mo ago
The mechanism runs the other way too, which is why under-salting gets discouraged: too little salt lets the wrong organisms get established before the lactic acid bacteria take over and drop the pH. It is not about salt killing things, it is about who wins the first 48 hours.
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@levain_lorna · 2mo ago
Printing the extension leaflet and leaving it on the counter genuinely worked on my father-in-law. A stranger with a university logo said it, so it was true, whereas I had merely been saying it for two years.
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