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customer six offered 400 for lifetime access to my 19/mo tool - take it?

Six paying customers, 114 a month in total, tool is 19 a month. One of them emailed asking if I would do 400 for lifetime access. He says he hates subscriptions and would rather pay once and forget it.

400 is more than three months of my entire MRR and would cover a year of hosting. But the product is nine months old and I genuinely do not know whether I will still be running it in three years, which makes the word lifetime feel like something I should not be selling.

So: is one lifetime deal at this stage a mistake or fine as a one-off? What do you write down so lifetime has an actual definition? And does it poison the pricing page for everyone else?

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  • @sheetsmith · 4mo ago · 2 replies

    Sold a batch of these two products ago and the money was the least interesting part. The people who buy lifetime tend to be your heaviest users and your most demanding tickets. They have paid, they are never paying again, and the relationship has no checkpoint where either side can walk away without it being a thing.

    One deal with one customer you already like is not the same animal as a public lifetime tier. If you do it, do it privately and keep it off the pricing page. And offer the boring alternative first: two years prepaid at a modest discount. Half the people who say they hate subscriptions mean they hate being charged without noticing, and prepay fixes that.

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    • @dax_darian · 4mo ago

      Be careful with the word too. In some places lifetime has to mean something specific and "we shut down" turns into a refund argument you will lose by email. I write it as a perpetual licence to the current major version plus updates for 24 months. Nobody has ever pushed back on that phrasing.

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  • @skillet_sara · 4mo ago

    Do the arithmetic before the philosophy. 400 divided by 19 is 21 months. If monthly churn is around 5% then an average customer sticks for roughly 20 months, so you are being offered a bit more than fair value in today's money, and cash at six customers is worth more than the same cash dripped over two years.

    What you are really selling is the price increase. If you are at 19 now and 39 in two years, that 400 looks a lot worse. Price the deal off where you think you will be, not where you are.

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  • @pentalobe_junie · 4mo ago · 2 replies

    Everyone piles onto lifetime deals and most of that is generalising from public campaigns where several hundred bargain hunters arrive in a week and then file tickets forever. That is a different situation from one existing customer offering you cash.

    Take it. Write four lines: what they get, what happens if you shut down (thirty days notice and a full export, no refund), fair use limits on anything that costs you money per unit, and that support is the same as everyone else's. Then never mention it publicly.

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    • @two_hills_up · 4mo ago

      The fair use line is the one people forget. If your costs are per run, an unlimited lifetime account is an open tab at your expense for as long as the product exists. Cap it at something generous and say the number out loud in the email.

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  • @nightbus_nina · 4mo ago · 2 replies

    Got asked almost exactly this and ended up doing two years prepaid instead - 380 for 24 months, a small discount and a real end date. He was delighted, I got the cash, and there is a renewal conversation in the calendar rather than a silence. If he had insisted on lifetime I would probably have said yes, but he did not insist, which told me the objection was the monthly charge and not forever.

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    • @visa_run_val · 4mo ago

      Worth flagging to whoever does your books: money taken up front for two years of service is not all this year's revenue, it gets recognised across the period. Does not change whether you take the deal, but it changes what the year looks like on paper and it is annoying to untangle later.

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  • @layover_lucy · 4mo ago

    Take the 400. Cap the usage. Do not publish it. Move on.

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