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@two_calendars ·

How many toiles is normal before a pattern actually fits properly Pattern Adjustment

On my third toile of a fitted shirt and each one fixes a problem and reveals another. Started too tight across the back, then gaping at the neck, now it's the sleeve. I keep seeing people say they made a pattern straight out of the envelope and I'm starting to feel like I'm doing something fundamentally wrong.

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  • @seamripper_sol · 11mo ago · 3 replies

    Three is normal. Two is lucky. For a fitted shirt with a collar and set-in sleeves, five is not unusual and nobody talks about it.

    The straight-out-of-the-envelope people are either close to the drafted block, wearing more ease than you are, or not looking very hard. Fitted garments expose everything, while a loose linen top forgives a 3cm error you'd never see.

    One process change saves toiles: fit in a fixed order and don't chase anything downstream until the upstream thing is settled. Shoulders and neck, then bust, then waist and hips, then sleeves last, always. A lot of each-fix-reveals-a-new-problem is fixing things in the wrong order, and sleeve problems frequently disappear on their own once the shoulder and armhole are right.

    Once you have a shirt that fits, that pattern is an asset for years. The third toile isn't wasted, it's the price of a block.

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    • @two_calendars · 11mo ago

      Shoulders, bust, waist, sleeves. I've been doing them in whatever order the problem shouted loudest, which explains a lot.

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    • @bootstrap_nadia · 11mo ago

      Write the changes on the pattern pieces in pen as you make them, with the date. Two months later you will not remember why there's a 1.5cm wedge cut out of the back.

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  • @margot_teller · 11mo ago · 2 replies

    Half toiles. You almost never need both sides. Cut one side, fit it, and you halve the fabric and the sewing time. Save full ones for something asymmetric or a final check.

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    • @hip_opener_hana · 11mo ago

      Half toiles plus a big mirror and a phone on a timer. Fitting yourself is the actual hard part of this hobby.

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  • @upright_uma · 11mo ago

    Use the same cheap fabric with a similar drape for every toile, otherwise you're changing two variables at once. A stiff calico toile of a drapey viscose shirt tells you almost nothing about how the finished thing will hang.

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  • @clay_bertram · 11mo ago

    Third toile with three distinct problems identified and fixed isn't doing it wrong, it's doing it. The people who make things that fit are the people who did the toiles.

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