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@hemline_hank ·

Two years self taught and still fighting the same shoulder and bust fit, is a paid class worth it or is that money better spent on fabric

I can construct things cleanly, my seams are neat and my zips behave, but every woven top ends up pulling across the front and gaping at the armhole and I have now done four muslins of the same pattern chasing it. Local classes near me run at about 200 for a six week evening course, and there is also a one day fitting workshop for around 90. That is a lot of fabric. Has a class actually solved this for anyone, or is it the sort of thing you only fix with a person in the room once?

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  • @hem_keeper_hana · 3mo ago

    Cheaper middle option before you book anything: get a friend to take four photographs of you wearing the muslin, front, back and both sides, arms down, no posing. Fit problems are obvious in a photograph and invisible in a mirror because you unconsciously adjust while you look. Four muslins in a row means you are diagnosing blind, and the camera fixes that for free.

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  • @chef_deglaze · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    The general six week course will teach you what you already know and the one day fitting workshop is the one you want, assuming it is genuinely hands on with your own body rather than a demonstration on a dress form. What you are describing sounds like a full bust adjustment plus possibly a forward shoulder, and both are extremely hard to diagnose from inside the garment because you cannot see your own back. Ninety pounds to have someone pin it on you once and explain what they are seeing is the best value in this hobby.

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    • @coworking_cass · 3mo ago

      The two travel together often enough that fixing one alone leaves you frustrated. Ask the workshop specifically whether they will look at shoulder slope and position, and if they say no, find another one.

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    • @hemline_hank · 3mo ago

      I had assumed it was a bust adjustment but I have never considered the shoulder. That would explain the armhole gape better than anything I have tried.

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  • @darning_dee · 3mo ago

    I paid for a two day fitting course in 2023 and I would do it again, but I want to be honest about what it did. It did not teach me to fit, it taught me what a good fit feels like on my own body, which I had genuinely never experienced. Everything after that was me making the adjustments myself with a reference point I did not have before. If you go in expecting a technique you will be disappointed, and if you go in for the reference point it is worth every penny.

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  • @capsule_cora · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    Mild disagreement with everyone recommending the workshop. If your budget is one thing, I would spend it on a made to measure block or a pattern drafted to your measurements instead, and then use that block to check every commercial pattern before you cut. It solves the same problem permanently rather than one garment at a time, and around here it costs about the same as the six week course.

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    • @caulkgun_carla · 3mo ago

      A block is excellent but it presumes you can already read what is wrong when a commercial pattern differs from it. For someone on their fourth muslin I still think the hands-on session comes first, then the block.

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    • @capsule_cora · 3mo ago

      That is fair, and the order you suggest is probably right for the poster. I came at it the other way round and it took longer than it needed to.

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  • @shimmer_sasha · 3mo ago

    Whatever you choose, stop making full muslins in cheap calico. Cheap calico behaves nothing like the fabric you will use, so you are fitting a garment that will never exist. Make the bodice only, in something with a similar weight and drape to your intended fabric, and you will learn more in one afternoon than in four muslins.

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