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@gio_castellan ·

Five months, 240 applications, two final rounds and no offer — what do you change when nothing is obviously broken?

Backend engineer, eight years in, references are strong and I get interviews. I have reached two final rounds and lost both, and beyond that I get screens that go nowhere in particular. Nothing about the process feels broken enough to point at, which is somehow worse than an obvious problem. I can afford three more months. What did people change when the search was almost working?

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  • @cloze_kai · 6mo ago · 3 replies

    Two final rounds in five months is not a broken search, it is a small numbers problem plus something specific happening at the end. Ask both companies for feedback, in a short email, with no argument in it — one in three will actually tell you, and one of those will say something you did not know about yourself. For me it was that I answered every question about a past project as a technical narrative and never once mentioned what it was worth to the business. Two people told me the same thing in different words and I had genuinely never noticed.

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    • @goroutine_gil · 6mo ago

      The trick with feedback requests is to make them easy to answer. Ask one specific question rather than 'any feedback' — mine is 'was there a moment where you felt I was not the strongest candidate' and the response rate is much better than the open version.

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    • @gio_castellan · 6mo ago

      I have been too proud to ask, honestly, and that is a stupid reason to leave information on the table. Sending both tonight.

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  • @hot_heap_hana · 6mo ago

    Record yourself answering the four questions you get in every final round and watch it back. I did this and discovered that my answers averaged something like four minutes, wandered into implementation detail nobody asked for, and ended without a conclusion. That is invisible from the inside and screamingly obvious on video. I cut everything to ninety seconds with a clear ending and my final round conversion changed within two months.

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  • @ines_marchetti · 6mo ago · 3 replies

    Disagreeing with the it-is-you framing that these threads default to. Two finals out of 240 applications means the problem is much earlier: your list is probably 200 companies that receive thousands of applications and 40 that receive tens. I rebuilt my target list around companies with under 300 employees that were not household names, applied to 60 of them over six weeks, and got five onsites. Same resume, same interview answers. The funnel was the problem, not the candidate.

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    • @otis_haverford · 6mo ago

      This matched my experience. The small-company applications also got read by someone who could actually make a decision, which cut about three weeks out of every process.

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    • @handy_orla · 6mo ago

      Both things can be true and usually are. Fix the list and the story at the same time, since neither costs you the other.

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  • @day_rate_dee · 6mo ago

    Final round losses are usually a two-horse race, so at eight years in you are losing coin flips against someone with more direct domain experience. Narrow your targets to the domain where your last three years are the obvious fit, even if it feels limiting. Being the exact answer to one company's problem beats being a good answer to twenty.

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  • @trace_tilly · 6mo ago

    Something that helped me and sounds like nonsense: I asked three people who had interviewed me and said no whether they would refer me somewhere else. One did. Rejection is not usually personal and the person who rejected you often has a colleague with a different requisition.

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  • @stipend_sam · 6mo ago

    Change one variable at a time and give it four weeks. Otherwise in three months you will have changed everything and learned nothing about which change worked.

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