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@yaml_yusuf ·

For people who actually got hired self-taught, how many months was it from first line of code to first payslip

I am 34, working full time in retail management, and can put in about twelve hours a week without wrecking my family life. I do not want the median of some bootcamp marketing page, I want the real number from people in here, plus what the last three months before the offer looked like. If the honest answer is two and a half years at twelve hours a week I would still like to know that now.

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  • @scopecreep_sam · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    Nineteen months for me, from zero to a junior data role, at roughly your hours. The shape mattered more than the total: months one to twelve were fundamentals and small projects and felt like nothing was happening, and then months thirteen to nineteen were almost entirely applying, interviewing and fixing what interviews exposed. I sent 154 applications and got 9 first-stage conversations, which sounds grim until you notice one of them was enough.

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    • @schema_drift_lu · 3mo ago

      Six from boards, three from humans. The three from humans were the only ones where I got past the first stage, which tells you where the leverage is even though the boards produced more raw replies.

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    • @yaml_yusuf · 3mo ago

      154 to 9 is useful, thank you. Were the 9 mostly from job boards or people you knew?

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  • @repot_ren · 3mo ago

    Going to disagree with the whole framing. Months from first line to payslip is a number you cannot control, and treating it as a target is how people burn out at month fourteen when they miss it. What you can control is whether you shipped something a stranger used this quarter. Track that instead and the months take care of themselves.

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  • @scripting_slowly · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    Not hired yet so take this as a data point rather than advice, but the pattern I see in every one of these threads is that the people who got there had a non-code job that made them useful. Warehouse, retail, nursing, accounts. If you are managing a retail floor you already know rotas, stock, waste and shrink, and internal tools for those things are written by people who have never stood on that floor.

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    • @late_stage_phd · 3mo ago

      This is right and it is how I got in. My previous job was scheduling for a logistics firm and the first thing I built was the ugly rota tool I had wanted for four years. Interviewers asked about it every single time.

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  • @interval_ida · 3mo ago

    Career changer at 38, took me 27 months and I would not call any of it wasted, but I would sequence it differently. I spent the first year on breadth because every roadmap tells you to, and I now think you should pick the narrowest job title you can tolerate in month three and aim everything at that. My offer came from a company whose stack I had accidentally matched, not because I was broadly good.

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  • @plainly_pat · 3mo ago

    Two years and two months. The last three months looked like: one project rewritten properly instead of three half projects, a CV rewritten by someone who actually hires, and applying every weekday morning before work rather than in bursts. The applying-daily part changed the response rate more than anything technical I did.

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  • @eleven_tabs · 3mo ago

    Eleven months, but I am being honest that I had an unfair advantage: my employer had an internal transfer scheme and I was already the person who fixed the spreadsheets. Going outside cold at twelve hours a week is a different race. If your current company has anything resembling a data or ops team, that door is far shorter than the front one.

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