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@corwin_ashby ·

Armoured shirt under a normal jacket versus a proper bike jacket, is the base layer thing a real substitute in city heat

Short urban rides, 30 to 50 km/h most of the time, and in August a textile jacket at traffic lights is genuinely unpleasant. Friends who commute swear by an armoured base layer under whatever they are wearing to work. I understand it holds armour in the right places, but I cannot work out what I am giving up. If it matters, my current jacket is AA rated and I am not planning to go on a motorway in it.

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  • @flat_fix_finn · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    You are giving up abrasion resistance, which is the half of the job the armour does not do. The garment standard has a class specifically for base layers worn as part of an outfit, and that class requires impact protectors but no abrasion performance at all. Armour handles the impact, the outer fabric handles the eight metres you slide afterwards, and a work shirt handles neither.

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    • @flat_fix_finn · 3mo ago

      Correct, and that is genuinely how they are meant to be used. The marketing photos of one worn under a denim jacket are doing a lot of quiet damage.

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    • @corwin_ashby · 3mo ago

      So the honest version is armoured shirt plus something abrasion resistant over it, not armoured shirt plus a cotton jacket.

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  • @rawfileruth · 3mo ago

    I own both and use both. Armoured shirt for 15 minute trips across town in summer where the alternative would honestly have been a t-shirt, mesh jacket with proper armour for anything longer or faster. It is a harm reduction tool, not an equivalent, and anyone telling you it is the same thing has not looked at what the labels claim.

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  • @mulch_marta · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    The thing that changed my mind on city heat was that airflow beats fabric weight. A proper mesh jacket at 40 km/h moves more air across you than a linen shirt does, because it is designed to funnel it rather than flap. I stopped reaching for the armoured shirt entirely once I had a mesh jacket that fitted, and it cost about the same.

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    • @coopvent_cal · 3mo ago

      Fair, nothing fixes stationary in August. But I would rather be hot for the two minutes at the lights than unprotected for the twenty minutes in between.

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    • @nightbus_nadia · 3mo ago

      Standing at lights is the counterexample though. Mesh is brilliant while moving and identical to everything else when stationary in traffic.

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  • @crimp_not_solder · 3mo ago

    Check where the armour actually sits when you are on the bike, not standing in the shop. Mine rode up on the forearms in a tuck and left the elbow pads halfway to my wrist, which is a very expensive way to carry foam around. The good ones have a strap or a sleeve that holds position.

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  • @tessa_ondrak · 4mo ago

    One more consideration nobody raises: if you are ever in an incident with another vehicle, what you were wearing tends to come up. Not legal advice and it varies enormously by country, so ask someone who knows your jurisdiction, but it is worth being aware that the choice is not purely about your own skin.

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