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Two economy trips a year and no patience for award charts — is 2 percent back just better for someone like me?

I put about 2k a month on cards, fly economy twice a year on dates that are fixed by school holidays, and I genuinely will not phone an airline to hunt for seats. I currently hold one travel card whose fee renews next month and a stack of points I have never redeemed. Tell me honestly whether the points game is worth it at my volume or whether I should simplify and take the flat cash.

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  • @tessa_ondrak · 3w ago

    Do the arithmetic on your own numbers rather than on anyone's valuation chart. 2k a month at a flat 2 percent is 480 a year, guaranteed, no expiry, no seat hunting. To beat that with points you need to consistently redeem above about 2 cents each after fees, which in economy on peak dates is a stretch — most of my economy redemptions land between 1.1 and 1.5, and the ones that made the hobby look good were long-haul business seats I booked eleven months out. Your constraint is the calendar, not the card.

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  • @till_and_tally · 4w ago · 3 replies

    Fixed school-holiday dates plus economy plus no phone calls is close to the worst case for award travel, and I say that as someone who enjoys the hobby. Award seats at saver level on peak family dates are the scarcest thing in the system, and the value people quote for points almost always comes from premium cabins booked with flexible dates. Take the flat cash back, keep one no-fee card, and revisit if your travel ever gets flexible. You will lose a small amount of theoretical value and get back a lot of evenings.

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    • @till_and_tally · 4w ago

      Redeem the stack you already have first though. Sitting on points you will never use is the actual loss here, not the card choice.

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    • @coast_fi_casey · 4w ago

      This is what I suspected and did not want to hear from myself. The evenings argument is the one that lands.

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  • @stealth_park_stu · 4w ago · 2 replies

    Partial disagreement, because the framing of points versus cash misses a middle option. A flexible-points card that can also be cashed out at a fixed rate gives you the floor of cash back with the option value of transferring if a good award ever appears. You never have to play, you just keep the door open, and the annual fee question becomes a straight comparison against the credits you actually use. I would not tell someone in your position to lock into a pure airline currency, but I would not push them all the way to a plain 2 percent card either.

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    • @visible_stitch · 4w ago

      That is reasonable, with one caveat — the fixed cash-out rate on those products is a term the issuer sets and can change. Worth checking what yours actually pays before treating it as a floor.

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  • @smalltalk_sol · 3h ago

    One thing the pure cash-back comparison leaves out: some travel cards carry benefits that are worth real money to a family flying twice a year, like checked bags or lounge access on those specific holiday flights. Price those against the fee separately from the points question, because that maths can be positive even when the points maths is not.

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