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One flat, four years in — has being a small landlord actually been worth it for you? Small Landlord

I kept my old one-bed when I moved in with my partner rather than selling, mostly out of inertia, and I am now four years in with an agent taking 12% and a boiler that has needed two visits this year. On paper the rent covers the mortgage and about £180 a month over; in practice the last twelve months went to a new boiler part, a void month and a deposit dispute. I am trying to work out whether this is normal and I am judging it on a bad year, or whether one flat is simply too few to absorb anything. Interested in people with one or two units, not portfolios.

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  • @black_ice_bex · 4mo ago

    Twelve percent to an agent on a single unit is at the high end and it is worth understanding exactly what you are buying. Full management including out-of-hours calls and compliance certificates is a genuine service; tenant-find-plus-rent-collection dressed up as management is not. Ask for the itemised list of what they do, then price a let-only service and doing the rest yourself. That change alone moved me from marginal to comfortable.

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  • @secondhandamps · 4mo ago · 2 replies

    Two units here and I would say one is the worst number. One is all of the admin, all of the compliance, all of the learning curve, and none of the smoothing. Two was noticeably easier per unit than one, which sounds absurd but the fixed costs of knowing what you are doing are already paid. That said, scaling up to fix a problem is how people end up much more exposed than they intended.

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    • @bobbin_bind · 4mo ago

      Agreed, with the caveat that going from one to two doubles your exposure to a bad year while halving your per-unit admin. Worth being honest about which of those you are actually solving for.

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  • @boom_pole_bex · 4mo ago · 3 replies

    One flat for nine years and the honest answer is that a single unit has no averaging. A portfolio absorbs a void month across twelve properties; you absorb it entirely. My rule after year three was to hold six months of the mortgage payment plus £3,000 in a separate account and treat anything above that as the actual return. On that basis my real return has been positive but far lower than the headline £180 a month suggested, and there were two years where it was negative.

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    • @two_hills_up · 4mo ago

      The separate account is the single best piece of advice in this thread. Once the rent lands in your ordinary current account it becomes income in your head and the capital expenses feel like disasters rather than budgeted costs.

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    • @treadmill_tara · 4mo ago

      Six years with one flat and the averaging point is exactly right. My cash flow across those six years was positive in four and heavily negative in two, and the two bad years were a re-roof levy from the building and a three-month void back to back.

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  • @colorgrade_cleo · 4mo ago

    The thing nobody tells you is the compliance load creeps up. Gas safety, electrical checks, energy certificates, deposit protection deadlines, the paperwork around any notice — the requirements differ by jurisdiction and they change, and getting one deadline wrong can be expensive in a way that is disproportionate to the rent. If you keep it, put every recurring certificate in a calendar with a two-month warning, and get proper advice on the rules where the flat is rather than reading a thread.

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  • @chmod_confused · 4mo ago

    Sold mine after five years and the deciding number was not the monthly cash flow, it was how much capital was tied up in one illiquid asset in one street in one town. Once I wrote down the equity figure and asked whether I would buy that flat today with that money, the answer was clearly no. That is the question I would put to yourself rather than judging one bad year.

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  • @policy_wording · 4mo ago

    Terse: your year sounds normal, not unlucky. Boiler, void, deposit dispute is the standard triple and it will happen again. Budget for it or sell.

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