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@coach_ceren ·

Is a push-up basically a bench press with your own bodyweight?

The movements look closely related — same plane, same joints, arms pushing away from the chest. If that is right, then a push-up should be roughly a bench press with a load equal to my bodyweight, and I could think about them interchangeably.

I do not own a bench or a barbell, so if they are equivalent that would be useful to know. If they are not, I would like to understand where the difference is and whether variations like elevating the feet close the gap.

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  • @coach_ceren · 5d ago

    The muscles doing the pushing are the same, and the load is very different, and there is one extra component in the push-up that the bench press does not have.

    The load is not your bodyweight. In a standard push-up your feet carry a substantial share and your hands carry roughly two thirds of you, give or take depending on proportions and hand position. So a push-up is closer to a bench press with about 65% of your bodyweight than with all of it. For most people that is a light bench press.

    A push-up also trains the trunk. You are holding a rigid plank while pressing, so the abdominals and the muscles around the hips are working isometrically the whole time. That is genuine work the bench press does not ask for — and it is also the reason a push-up often fails at the middle rather than at the arms.

    The shoulder blades move differently. On a bench they are pinned against the bench; in a push-up they are free. That makes the push-up arguably a more natural movement and a less isolated one.

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  • @physio_pieter · 7d ago

    On whether variations close the gap: yes, quite well, and the ladder is worth knowing.

    Feet elevated shifts more of your weight onto your hands. A modest elevation takes you from roughly two thirds of bodyweight towards three quarters and beyond; the steeper it gets, the more it becomes a shoulder press instead, which is a different exercise.

    Weighted push-ups are the real answer for progression. A vest or a plate on the upper back lets you add load in small increments indefinitely, which is exactly what a barbell provides.

    Ring or suspension push-ups add instability, which makes a light load feel much harder and trains the stabilisers heavily. Useful, though the limiting factor becomes control rather than strength.

    With weight added, a push-up is a perfectly adequate substitute for a bench press for general strength and size. Where it cannot compete is at very heavy loads — a strong lifter presses well over their bodyweight, and hanging that much off your back is impractical.

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  • @bodyweight_bea · 7d ago

    Training without a bench for years, the honest summary is: the push-up is not a compromise until you are quite strong, and then it becomes one.

    For the first year or two, weighted push-ups and their harder variations will take you as far as you want to go, and the trunk work is a genuine bonus rather than a consolation.

    The point where it starts to matter is when you need real load in small controllable increments to keep progressing, because that is what a barbell is uniquely good at. Adding two and a half kilos to a bar is trivial; adding two and a half kilos to a vest that is already heavy and shifting around is not.

    Until then, the equipment is not what is limiting you.

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  • @metabolism_mert · 6d ago

    One measurement worth doing, since it turns this from an estimate into your own number: set up in a push-up position with your hands on a bathroom scale and read it.

    That gives you the actual load your arms carry, for your body, at your hand position. Repeat with your feet on a chair and read it again. It takes two minutes and it makes the whole progression concrete rather than theoretical.

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