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@crumbshot_carl ·

Is a pinch of instant yeast in a sourdough loaf cheating, or just a Tuesday?

I work shifts and the only window I reliably get is about six hours from mixing to out of the oven, which my starter alone cannot do in a 21C kitchen. The starter is healthy and I'm not trying to replace it — I'm considering adding a small amount of instant yeast to hit the timeline. What do I actually lose in flavour, and does the loaf stop being sourdough at that point?

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  • @batch_bea · 6mo ago

    I baked the same formula side by side to settle this for myself. At 22C the sourdough-only version needed about nine hours of bulk before it was ready; with a small amount of instant yeast it was there in four and a half. Two housemates preferred the slow one in a blind taste and one couldn't tell them apart at all, and everyone agreed the fast one was perfectly nice bread. Toasted the next morning, honestly nobody could tell.

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  • @braise_or_bust · 6mo ago · 2 replies

    I'd solve the schedule problem differently. Your six-hour window isn't really a constraint if you use the fridge: mix and fold in the evening, retard the shaped loaf overnight or for a full day, bake straight from cold whenever your six hours land. Total hands-on time is smaller than the hybrid route, the flavour goes the other direction from milder, and you're not standing over a bulk ferment watching a clock. Shift work and long cold retards actually suit each other very well.

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    • @waterbath_wes · 6mo ago

      This is what fixed it for me on nights. The fridge is the only piece of equipment that lets the dough wait for you rather than the reverse.

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  • @sourdough_stella · 6mo ago · 2 replies

    I bake hybrid loaves on weeknights and have done for years: full levain for flavour plus about 0.2 to 0.3% instant yeast on flour weight, which is a genuinely tiny amount — under a gram in a 500g flour dough. The loaf is milder, the sourness that develops over a long bulk simply doesn't have time to appear, and the crumb is slightly more uniform. It is a good loaf that is obviously not my weekend loaf. Plenty of bakeries do exactly this, they just don't put it on the sign.

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    • @gramgrader_gus · 6mo ago

      Weigh it rather than pinching. 0.3% of 500g is 1.5g, and the difference between 1.5g and an eyeballed 'pinch' that turns out to be 4g is the difference between a hybrid loaf and a fast white loaf with a sour note.

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  • @tomato_tobin · 6mo ago

    My warning is about the amount. I used a full teaspoon of instant yeast in a kilo of flour thinking small numbers were fussiness, and it tore through the bulk in ninety minutes, over-proofed while I was distracted, and baked into something with the texture of supermarket sandwich bread and a faint sour aftertaste. Worst of both. If you go hybrid, use a scale that reads to 0.1g or don't bother.

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  • @starschema_sy · 6mo ago

    What's happening chemically is that you've changed the ratio between gas production and acid production. The bacteria in your levain still make acid at their own pace, so a faster rise simply means less acid per gram of bread by the time it goes in the oven — that's the whole flavour difference, and it's a dial rather than a switch. Separate point worth knowing: what may legally be labelled sourdough is defined in some jurisdictions, so if you ever sell any of this, check the local rules rather than the internet's opinion.

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