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@errwrap_elle ·

Toronto, mostly plowed roads — do I genuinely need winters or are good all-weathers enough? Regional Rules

Downtown, garage parking, maybe 8,000 km a year and almost all of it inside the city where the roads get cleared quickly. Two or three times a winter I drive north to visit family and that trip is a different world. Currently on all-seasons and the car is front wheel drive. I would rather buy one set of all-weather tyres and stop thinking about it than store two sets in a condo, but I do not want to be the person creeping down the highway in a snow squall on the wrong rubber.

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  • @oxford_cloth_ollie · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    Insurance angle worth checking: in Ontario insurers are required to offer a discount for having winter tyres fitted, and the discount is small but it runs every year. Whether all-weathers qualify depends on the insurer, so ask yours directly before you decide, because it changes the maths slightly in favour of a proper winter set.

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    • @threefund_dana · 3mo ago

      Mine required the snowflake symbol and accepted all-weathers on that basis, but they asked for the invoice showing the fitment date. Worth getting that paperwork at purchase rather than chasing it later.

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  • @weekend_margin · 3mo ago

    The trips north are the whole decision. Snow squalls off the lake do not care that your city roads are plowed, and you will be on a highway with trucks in the middle of one at some point. Whichever way you go, plan those trips around the forecast rather than around the tyre, because no tyre is a plan.

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  • @niacinamide_jo · 3mo ago

    Storage is a real constraint and worth pricing rather than assuming. Many shops in the city do seasonal tyre storage for a per-season fee, which over four years is often less than the difference in wear you accept with all-weathers. Ask two shops near you before ruling out two sets — the condo problem may not be a problem.

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  • @fiber_finn · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    All-weather tyres carry the three-peak mountain snowflake, so they are legally winter tyres where that matters and they are a real category rather than marketing — but they are a compromise, and the compromise shows up in deep snow and in very cold temperatures rather than in a cleared city street. For 8,000 km of downtown driving with two or three trips north, they are a defensible choice. For someone commuting on a 400-series highway daily, they are not.

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    • @threeleggedcat · 3mo ago

      Downtown garage parking also means the car starts warm, which flatters all-weathers further. The one place I have regretted mine was an unheated overnight stop north of the city at minus twenty five, where the first two kilometres felt like driving on wood.

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    • @carb_clean_cal · 3mo ago

      The temperature part is what people miss. A dedicated winter compound stays pliable well below freezing; an all-weather is formulated to survive summer too, so it is stiffer when it is truly cold. Around zero the difference is small. At minus twenty it is not.

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  • @pandl_paula · 3mo ago

    One more thing that shifts this: all-weathers wear faster in summer than an all-season would, so you replace them sooner. Over the life of the car you may buy three sets of all-weathers where you would have bought two sets of summers and one set of winters. Not a reason to avoid them, just do not assume one set is automatically the cheaper path.

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