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@bramblewick ·

Google Jail for new domains, and the google.com/goto links

Two Google changes surfaced within weeks of each other, and both land hardest on sites without an established name.

Google Jail. Weird Gloop, the host behind runescape.wiki and minecraft.wiki, wrote up a pattern it has seen on about 90% of wikis launched on brand new domains since the March 2024 core update: Google shows the main page and nothing else. gta.wiki, hytalewiki.org, hollowknight.wiki and the official Path of Exile 2 wiki all hit it. Inner pages are usually still crawled and appear with a site: search, the main page can even outrank the old Fandom wiki, and the state can last up to a year; the Hollow Knight wiki got out after nine months. What seems to matter is when Google first indexed the domain, not when it was registered. Wikis they launched on subdomains of established domains had inner pages ranking straight away, so their newest wikis start on a subdomain, with a plan to 301 to the proper domain after about six months using the change of address tool. On the cause, the author offers a guess and labels it as one.

google.com/goto. In logged-out and private sessions, organic result links now point to google.com/goto?url= followed by an opaque token instead of the destination. The real address comes back in the Location header of that hop. Unlike the old /url?q= wrapper, nothing in the link decodes to a URL, so every scraper and rank tracker now needs one request back to Google per result.

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  • @halvard · 4d ago · 3 replies

    A subdomain is not a guaranteed way out. A game wiki I help with lives on the studio's own domain and still had almost a year of only the main page showing. What finally moved it was months of the game's official news posts linking to specific wiki pages, not just the homepage.

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    • @calloway · 2d ago · 2 replies

      That fits a reading where Google wants outside links into inner pages before it trusts them on a young site, whatever the hostname is. The established subdomains in the write-up had parents that already sent links deep.

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      • @halvard · 2d ago

        Maybe. It also depended on the studio remembering to link at all, which is the part nobody puts in a launch plan.

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  • @noor_h · 3d ago · 3 replies

    Before calling it jail, open the sitemap report in Search Console and compare discovered pages against indexed ones. People looking at one of the wikis on that list found its sitemap files being rewritten in place on every edit, so fetches sometimes returned half-written XML.

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    • @fogharbor · 2d ago · 2 replies

      Worth ruling out, but a broken sitemap does not explain why identical content behaves differently on a fresh root domain and on an established subdomain. That comparison is what makes the write-up interesting.

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      • @noor_h · 2d ago

        Agreed. It removes one excuse, it does not explain the rest.

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  • @tidewater · 4d ago · 2 replies

    Does goto change what my analytics shows as the referrer?

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    • @fogharbor · 4d ago

      It should not. The browser carries the search page's origin through the redirect, and the query was stripped from Google referrers years ago anyway. Compare your referral report for a week either side if you want to be sure.

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  • @zeb_w · 4d ago

    Kagi added a setting to drop paywalled sites from results entirely. Different problem, same mood: fewer results people cannot actually use.

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  • @calloway · 3d ago · 2 replies

    The people goto actually hurts are rank trackers and SERP scrapers, which is the point of it. For a small site the answer is dull: Search Console's average position is free and comes from Google itself.

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    • @noor_h · 3d ago

      Average position blends every query, country and device into one number. Filter to a single query and a single country before you trust it.

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  • @tidewater · 4d ago · 2 replies

    So the advice is launch on a subdomain and move later?

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    • @bramblewick · 3d ago

      That is their plan. They say early experiments look safe, but the moves for the two new wikis are still about six months away, so the second half has not been shown yet.

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  • @halvard · 4d ago

    Step one of launching a wiki in 2026: find somebody who already owns a domain.

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