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What 1,500 a month actually covers in a European city, once you stop counting only rent

The number gets thrown around constantly and it is almost always quoted as a rent figure with everything else waved at. I have now run it properly in three places for at least four months each, tracking every outgoing. Here is what the line items actually looked like, and which one broke it each time.

What people quote

Rent for a one-bed, and that is the whole pitch. In the cheaper end of southern and central Europe that is genuinely findable at 500, 700 for a modest flat away from the centre, and the rest of the number looks like enormous headroom.

What the rest of it goes on

  • Utilities, and specifically heating. Summer bills told me nothing. A cold month in an older building with poor insulation was the single biggest surprise on the whole budget, it can multiply the utility line several times over. Anyone who moved in April and budgeted from April is going to have a bad January.
  • Health cover. If you are not in a national system you are buying private cover, and the price is not a rounding error.
  • The cost of moving itself. Deposit, first month, the flight, the week in temporary accommodation while you look. Every move resets this. The cheapest month I have had was a month where I did not move.
  • Paperwork. Residence applications, translations, notarised documents, the occasional lawyer. This is lumpy and invisible until it lands.
  • The social tax. Being new is expensive. You eat out more, you take the tourist version of things, you do not know which shop is cheaper. This settles after about two months and it costs real money before it does.

The honest summary

1,500 works comfortably in a lot of places if you stay put. It works badly if you move every eight weeks, because the moving costs and the being-new costs never get a chance to amortise. The variable that actually decides whether the number holds is not the city: it is how often you change city.

I am not going to name a winner, because the cheap city of two years ago is not cheap now and any list of names ages badly. The line items are the transferable part.

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  • @rent_is_the_lie · 3w ago · 2 replies

    Agree with the conclusion, disagree about which line does the damage.

    You have heating as the surprise. For me it was the exchange rate and the cost of holding money in one currency while earning in another. Over a year that quietly took more than a bad winter ever did, and unlike heating there is no month where it stops.

    The second thing nobody budgets: the tax position. Depending on where you are actually resident, staying somewhere long enough to be comfortable is exactly what makes you liable there. So the advice "stay put, it is cheaper" is right on the spending side and can be expensive on a completely different line: the two pull against each other and no budget spreadsheet I have seen includes both.

    Not saying do not do it. Saying the version of the plan where you sit still for eleven months has a bill attached that the moving version does not.

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    • @stayed_two_years · 3w ago

      Exchange rate as the damaging line is right if you earn and spend in different currencies. It moves more than rent does.

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  • @three_cities_tried · 3w ago · 2 replies

    Tracked three cities the same way and the line that surprised me was none of the ones listed: it was the cost of arriving. First month always ran twenty to thirty percent over steady state, every single time.

    Deposit, a bad short-term rate before you know the city, buying the things you did not carry, eating out because the kitchen is unfamiliar. Budget an arrival cost per move and the numbers stop looking mysterious.

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    • @stayed_put_cheaper · 2w ago

      Which is the arithmetic behind the last line. Twelve moves means twelve arrival costs, and that alone is a rent.

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  • @visa_costs_money · 3w ago

    Adding the line you flagged as lumpy, with the shape of it, because "paperwork" undersells it.

    A residence application ran to: the application fee, an apostille on two documents from home, certified translations of both, a health certificate, passport photos to a specific standard, a bank statement showing a minimum balance, and eventually a few hours of a lawyer's time to fix something I had filled in wrong. Individually all small. Together it was more than a month of the rent I was so pleased about.

    And it recurs. Renewals are not free, and they arrive on the anniversary you have stopped thinking about.

    So I would put it as its own line in the budget at a monthly amortised figure rather than as an occasional surprise, because that is what it is. It is a subscription with an annoying interface.

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  • @winter_bill_shock · 3w ago · 2 replies

    The heating point cannot be overstated and I want to put a shape on it for anyone reading.

    Old stone building, high ceilings, single glazing, electric heaters because there was no central system. My summer utility bill and my January utility bill were not in the same category of number. It was not a percentage increase, it was a different kind of expense that simply had not existed for the first five months.

    What I would tell anyone: before signing anything for more than three months, ask what the building is heated with and ask the previous tenant - not the landlord: what the coldest month cost. Landlords answer that question optimistically and are not really lying, because they are usually quoting a mild year.

    Also: a flat that is cheap because it is cold is not cheap. It is a bill deferred to January.

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    • @three_cities_tried · 2w ago

      Heating in an old stone building with single glazing is a genuine four-figure winter and it never appears in a cost-of-living index.

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  • @stayed_put_cheaper · 3w ago · 2 replies

    The last line is the whole post and I think it deserves to be stated even more strongly.

    I spent a year at roughly one city per month and a year at roughly one city per four months, on the same work and the same income. The second year cost meaningfully less and I could not point at a single thing I gave up.

    The reason is boring: in month three you know which supermarket, you have a barber, you cook, you have friends who suggest the cheap place instead of the nice place, and you have stopped paying the tax on not knowing anything. None of that exists in a four-week stay, ever, by construction.

    So if the number is tight, the lever is not finding a cheaper city. It is staying long enough to stop being a tourist in the one you are already in.

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    • @stayed_two_years · 2w ago

      Two years in one place after four years of moving. Rent went down about fifteen percent for a better flat, because I could sign a normal lease instead of paying the furnished short-let premium.

      The premium for flexibility is the largest single line nobody puts in these breakdowns, and it is paid every month rather than at the airport.

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