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@muslin_mira ·

keyword tool shows 10-100 searches a month for every phrase in my niche - dead market or bad tool

I checked about forty phrases around the problem I want to solve. Almost all of them come back in the 10-100 band, a handful say zero, and the only high volume terms are generic ones that big software companies already own.

My read could be either: nobody is searching for this so there is no market, or the market exists and simply does not phrase its problem the way a keyword tool can measure. I do not know how to tell those apart before spending three months building.

How do you check demand for something that does not have obvious search volume?

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  • @hemline_hank · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    Cheaper signals than a keyword tool, in the order I would check them.

    Job postings. If companies are hiring people to do the thing manually, or listing the tool they currently use in the requirements, that is budget existing today. Search job boards for the workflow, not for the job title.

    Forum and community posts asking how do I. Count them, read them, note the exact wording. Twenty real posts in the last year in a niche community is a stronger signal than a thousand searches a month for a vague term.

    Spreadsheets. If the current solution is a spreadsheet somebody rebuilds every quarter, ask them how long it takes and what happens when it breaks. Software that replaces a painful spreadsheet is the most reliably sellable category there is.

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    • @hemline_hana · 3mo ago

      Job postings are the single most underused source. They are dated, public, and written by someone with an approved budget.

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  • @visible_stitch · 3mo ago

    Mild pushback on the optimism here. Low search volume genuinely does mean something, it just does not mean no demand - it means you cannot rely on search as your first channel.

    That is a real constraint and it changes what you build and how you fund it. If nobody is searching, you have to go and find people, one at a time, which is slower, requires a different temperament, and means your first year looks like sales rather than marketing. Plenty of good businesses live there. Just do not walk in expecting a page to rank and the users to arrive, because it will take much longer than you think and you will conclude the product is wrong when the channel was.

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  • @hemline_hank · 3mo ago

    Ten conversations with people who have the problem will tell you more in a fortnight than any amount of keyword archaeology. Ask what they did last time it happened, not whether they would use a tool. The first question gets you a story with a cost attached. The second gets you politeness.

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  • @label_reader_lo · 3mo ago · 3 replies

    Keyword tools are search advertising instruments. They estimate what advertisers can buy, they bucket and round aggressively at the low end, and they under-report anything phrased as a long specific question. A niche B2B problem with two thousand buyers worldwide will look identical to a dead market in that interface.

    What separates the two is intent per search, not volume. Forty phrases at 10-100 a month is potentially several hundred searches a month by people describing a specific operational problem in their own words. If you sell at $50 a month and convert a small fraction of that, it is a business. It is a terrible business for anyone selling ads against it, which is exactly why the tools do not represent it well.

    The generic high volume term is a trap anyway. You would never rank for it and the traffic would not buy.

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    • @retainer_rue · 3mo ago

      The rounding matters as much as the intent. Everything under a certain floor gets bucketed into the same range, so forty phrases all reporting 10-100 tells you nothing about how they differ from each other, and one of them might be doing most of the work.

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    • @stipend_sam · 3mo ago

      The framing that the tool measures what advertisers can buy rather than what people search is the thing I was missing.

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  • @warranty_wes · 3mo ago

    Zero volume terms convert. I have a page sitting on a phrase every tool reports as zero which brings a couple of visits most days and roughly one trial a week. The tool is not lying exactly, it just cannot see anything under its rounding floor, and its floor is well above the level at which a small product becomes viable.

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  • @costbasis_carl · 3mo ago

    Cheapest test available: write one genuinely good page answering one specific question in that niche, publish it, and wait three months. Then read the actual queries in your search console rather than the estimates in a tool.

    Real queries from real people beat every estimate, they cost you a weekend, and the page keeps working whatever you decide about the product. Two of the phrases I now build content around were things no tool ever showed me and no human would have guessed.

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