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@night_train_ned ·

Six months of sharing a bed and I have never slept worse — separate duvets or separate rooms?

Partner moved in in February. They sprawl, they turn over about ten times a night, and they come to bed at 1am while I'm up at 6. I now wake three or four times a night and I'm getting short with people at work. I don't want to make separate bedrooms into A Thing, so I want to hear from people who tried the smaller fixes first and whether any of them held.

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  • @listener_lena · 5mo ago · 3 replies

    Two single duvets on a double bed. It sounds like nothing and it fixed about seventy percent of the problem for us within a week.

    Most of what wakes you when someone turns over isn't the movement, it's the duvet being dragged off you and the sudden cold. Once you each have your own, they can roll all night and your microclimate doesn't change. It's standard across most of Scandinavia for exactly this reason and it cost us the price of one extra duvet and cover.

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    • @night_train_ned · 5mo ago

      Ordering one tonight. I hadn't separated the movement from the draught in my head at all and now that you say it, it's the cold that wakes me.

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    • @wind_down_wren · 5mo ago

      Second this. Also get two different tog ratings if one of you runs hot — that solved a fight we'd been having for years about the bedroom temperature.

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  • @coopvent_cal · 5mo ago

    Before you rearrange your living situation, check the mattress. Ours was a cheap sprung one and every single movement travelled the whole width of the bed. We replaced it with a foam mattress and the number of times I woke went from four-ish to one.

    Not cheap, and I would not lead with it. But if you're going to spend money on this problem anyway, motion transfer is the variable most people never test.

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  • @aura_annie · 5mo ago

    We slept apart for three years and the relationship was completely fine. I'll say that plainly because everybody tiptoes around it.

    What made it not-a-thing was being deliberate: we kept a wind-down hour together in the same bed, and one of us moved at the end of it. Sex and closeness are scheduled around being awake, not around unconsciousness. Nobody I've told has reacted badly, and I stopped being the person who snapped at colleagues by Wednesday.

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  • @lowtech_lior · 5mo ago · 3 replies

    If the partner snores, or gasps, or stops breathing for a beat, that's the thing to chase rather than the sleeping arrangement. Mine did and I spent two years treating it as a noise problem with earplugs.

    He got assessed, it was sleep apnoea, and treating it changed his daytime energy more than it changed my nights. I'm not diagnosing anyone here — I just wish someone had told me earlier that loud snoring is worth mentioning to a GP rather than engineering around.

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    • @night_train_ned · 5mo ago

      She does gasp occasionally and I have absolutely been treating it as a noise problem to engineer around. That's a conversation for this week rather than a duvet purchase.

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    • @coldsoak_kim · 5mo ago

      Worth raising it gently and factually — 'you stop breathing for a second and then gasp' lands much better than 'your snoring is ruining my life', which is where we started.

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  • @tarp_and_tea · 5mo ago

    The 1am arrival was our real issue, not the sprawling. We agreed that whoever comes to bed later gets ready in the bathroom entirely — phone left outside, clothes laid out, no drawers, no light in the bedroom.

    Sounds petty written down. It removed two of my four wakeups. Try the cheap behavioural stuff for a fortnight before you buy furniture.

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  • @wonder_why_wren · 5mo ago

    Separate duvets first, earplugs second, separate rooms third. Most people stop at the first one. The ones who don't are usually dealing with snoring, which is a different problem with a different fix.

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