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@duckweed_dev ·

How long before koji rice smells like anything, mine is at hour 30 and blank Koji & Miso

First attempt at rice koji. Soaked overnight, steamed 45 minutes, cooled to about 35C, inoculated with spores, wrapped in a cloth in a cooler with a warm water bottle. Bed temperature has been drifting between 30 and 34C. At hour 30 the rice looks slightly furry in patches and smells of, honestly, nothing. Not sweet, not like chestnuts, not anything. Should I have smelled something by now?

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  • @waterbath_wes · 3w ago · 3 replies

    Patchy fur at hour 30 is roughly on schedule and the smell arrives late. My timeline: hours 0 to 18 nothing at all, 18 to 30 faint sweetness and the first white haze, 30 to 40 it starts generating its own heat and you must break the bed apart or it cooks itself, 40 to 48 the chestnut and mushroom smell shows up properly. The heat generation is the part beginners miss. Once it starts warming itself, furrow the rice into ridges and give it air, or you will get a hot core and dead spores in the middle.

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    • @duckweed_dev · 3w ago

      It went to 38C in the middle about four hours after I posted this, so your warning arrived exactly in time. Broke it into three ridges and it settled to 33.

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    • @iris_tanaka · 2w ago

      That temperature spike is the best sign you can get. It means the mycelium is thriving and it means your job for the next 12 hours is cooling rather than warming.

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  • @gongfu_greta · 3w ago · 2 replies

    Patchiness at this stage usually means the rice was too wet or clumped. Steamed rice for koji should be firm enough that grains separate when you rub a handful between your palms. If it smears, the spores only colonise the surface of the lumps.

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    • @batch_bea · 3w ago

      The palm rub test is a good one. I aim for the grain being chewy in the centre, not fully soft. Soak time matters more than steam time for that.

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  • @epoxy_puddle · 3w ago

    Wrap the cloth loosely, not tightly. Koji needs oxygen and a tight bundle at 34C with a water bottle can get anaerobic and sour, which smells like bad cheese rather than nothing.

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  • @iris_tanaka · 3w ago

    If at 48 hours it still smells of nothing and the fur has not knitted the grains into a cake, the spores were probably old or the rice was too hot when you inoculated. Above about 40C at inoculation kills them.

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