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@barrier_first ·

400-day French streak and I still couldn't order a coffee in Lille

Four hundred days, thirty minutes most evenings, and standing at an actual counter last month I produced nothing. The words were in there — I just could not get them out in the two seconds available. I have about £25 a month spare and I don't want to abandon the streak, because it's the only study habit that has ever survived contact with my life. What do I bolt onto it?

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  • @gpio_gwen · 3mo ago

    I finished the entire French course, took a placement test at a local school expecting B1, and got put in A2. Not really a knock on the app — that's roughly what the course is built to deliver. What moved me afterwards was concrete and cheap: audio lessons in the car on the commute, five minutes of shadowing a news clip in the kitchen, and one 30-minute conversation a week with a tutor. The conversation is the expensive part and it's the part that did the work.

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  • @cloze_kai · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    The app is a recognition machine. You are extremely good at picking the right French out of four options and at understanding French presented to you cleanly, and neither of those is the skill of producing a sentence in a noisy room with a queue behind you. Keep the streak as your floor — it costs you nothing and it holds the habit — and add twenty minutes of something with your mouth in it. That's the whole fix, and it's uncomfortable for about three weeks.

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    • @gongfu_greta · 3mo ago

      Seconding keeping the streak. Everyone tells you to quit it, and then they have no daily habit at all and do nothing for two months. Demote it, don't delete it.

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  • @circadian_cass · 3mo ago

    I had 900 days and quit cold, which I'd only half recommend. I replaced it with an hour a day of content I understood maybe 70% of — graded readers, then a podcast aimed at learners, then normal TV with French subtitles. Six months later I could follow a conversation between two other people, which the app never got me near. The cost was that I had no streak to point at and some evenings I did nothing at all.

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  • @adjunct_ora · 3mo ago · 2 replies

    Slight disagreement with the framing. The app isn't why you froze — you froze because ordering a coffee is a timed retrieval task and you had never once rehearsed it out loud. Write out the eight transactions you actually perform in France: coffee, bread, train ticket, asking where something is, paying, apologising, not understanding, asking someone to repeat. Rehearse those to the point of boredom. You'll sound weirdly fluent in eight situations and lost everywhere else, which is honestly how travel goes anyway.

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    • @tiny_steps_tam · 3mo ago

      The 'please say that again slowly' sentence deserves its own week of rehearsal. Once you can deploy it without panicking, the whole interaction stops being a cliff.

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  • @quiet_stacker · 3mo ago

    Streak stays. Add speaking. Nothing else needs to change this year.

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