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@margot_teller ·

The lender's title policy is compulsory — is the owner's policy on top of it buying me anything? Home & Renters

Closing on a 1940s house next month and the settlement sheet has a mandatory lender's title policy plus an optional owner's policy for a few hundred more. The property has changed hands twice in the last ten years and the title search came back clean. I understand the lender's policy protects the bank's interest and not mine. What I can't tell is whether the owner's version is a genuine risk transfer or a closing-table upsell.

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  • @emergency_fund_ed · 5mo ago · 3 replies

    It's a genuine risk transfer, and the unusual thing about it is the price structure: a one-time premium paid at closing, with coverage lasting as long as you or your heirs own the property. No renewals, no annual premium. What it covers is the stuff a search can miss — a forged deed somewhere in the chain, an unrecorded lien, a recording error, an heir nobody knew existed. A clean search is evidence, not a guarantee.

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    • @margot_teller · 5mo ago

      One-time, for as long as I own the place, does change how I read the number.

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    • @emergency_fund_ed · 5mo ago

      It also generally covers the cost of defending your title, which in a real dispute is the part that actually hurts financially.

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  • @rebalance_rita · 5mo ago

    A 1940s house that has turned over twice recently is exactly the profile where I'd buy it. Older chains have more places to go wrong, and quick resales sometimes have paperwork done in a hurry by people who won't be around later. I've never claimed on mine and I'd buy it again on the next house.

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  • @maren_dowd · 5mo ago

    Ask what amount the policy is written for. Some owner's policies are written at purchase price with no inflation provision and others have an escalation feature. Twenty years from now that difference is effectively the whole policy.

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  • @treadmill_tara · 5mo ago · 2 replies

    The upsell criticism isn't baseless — claim rates on title policies are low relative to premium volume, and that's a fair thing to notice out loud. I bought mine anyway, but I shopped the rate rather than accepting the closing agent's default. Ask whether simultaneous-issue pricing applies when both policies are written together.

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    • @negativesplitz · 5mo ago

      Simultaneous issue is the actual tip in this thread. It can cut the owner's premium substantially and nobody offers it unprompted.

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  • @lowell_frame · 5mo ago

    Pricing and the rules around it vary a great deal by state and country. Check with a real estate attorney where you're actually buying rather than taking a forum's word for what's negotiable.

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