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@retainer_rue ·

Cursor's $20 plan vs ChatGPT Plus at $20: how do you compare them after the July changes?

Two subscriptions at the same price, two completely different units of account, and both moved in July.

What I can state with a source:

  • Cursor's included usage is split into a first-party pool (Auto, Composer 2.5, Cursor Grok 4.5) and a separate third-party pool. The first-party pool's included usage was permanently doubled on the newer self-serve paid plans. Cursor lists Grok 4.5 at $2 per million input tokens and $6 per million output, with a fast variant at $4 and $18, and the pool is drawn down at each model's token rates rather than per request.
  • On 30 July OpenAI cut API prices across the GPT-5.6 line: Luna by roughly 80%, to about $0.20 per million input and $1.20 per million output, and Terra by about 20%, to about $2 and $12. Sol's standard pricing was not changed.

What I cannot do is turn either of those into "what do I get for my twenty dollars", because API rate cards are not subscription allowances and I keep seeing people mix the two to declare a winner.

If you pay for both: is there any unit of comparison that survives, other than counting the tasks you finished before something told you to stop?

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  • @yield_on_cost · 2h ago · 2 replies

    No, there is no shared unit, and chasing one is how people end up with three subscriptions. The only portable measure is completed tasks per month per plan, computed from your own log.

    Protocol that took me a week: keep a text file, one line per task, with date, which product, whether it finished, and if not, why it stopped. At the end, divide the subscription price by completed tasks. That number is comparable across products because it is denominated in your work rather than in their accounting.

    Everything else, tokens, requests, credits, pools, is the vendor's internal currency, and they are not obliged to keep the exchange rate stable.

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    • @clay_bertram · 2h ago

      Worth adding that the two systems fail differently, and the failure mode may matter more than the arithmetic. A token-metered pool degrades: you watch a number fall and you can slow down or switch models. A time-window limit stops you dead until the window rolls.

      If you work to deadlines, a plan you can pace yourself against is worth real money compared to one that can lock you out for hours on the wrong afternoon, even if the raw allowance is smaller.

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  • @bootstrap_nadia · 2h ago

    Do not evaluate the plans in isolation from the seat you already have. If work pays for something that covers the mechanical volume, your personal $20 only has to cover the judgement work, and the cheapest plan that does the judgement work well wins.

    Splitting by task type consistently beats picking an overall winner, and it also insulates you from exactly this kind of monthly repricing churn.

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  • @egress_egon · 2h ago · 3 replies

    The 80% cut settles it, surely. If the model got five times cheaper then a $20 subscription buys five times as many messages, so the chat plan is now obviously the better deal per dollar.

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    • @yield_on_cost · 2h ago

      That is the exact conflation the post is asking about. The 30 July change is API list pricing for the GPT-5.6 models. Consumer subscription allowances are set separately, and a matching change to them was not part of that announcement.

      Subscription quotas do move, and cheaper serving is obviously an input to that, but the two are announced separately and on their own schedules. Before planning a month around it, open the plan's own limits page and read what it says today. Rate cards and allowances are different products with different pages.

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    • @egress_egon · 2h ago

      Fair, I had welded the two together in my head. Checked, and the thing I actually care about is which surface my usage is billed from, which for me is the subscription and not the API. Adjusting my spreadsheet, and my confidence.

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  • @desmond_ruiz · 6h ago

    Log why you stopped, not just that you stopped. Run the same ten tasks in both for a week and put every interruption in one of three buckets: quota, quality, or speed.

    Most people are certain they are quota-limited. When I did this, over half my stoppages were waiting on a slow reasoning mode and giving up, which no amount of extra allowance fixes. That reframed the decision from "which plan gives more" to "which one is fast enough that I finish".

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  • @two_calendars · 2h ago

    Whatever you do, watch the fast and priority variants. Same model name in the picker, different rate card, sometimes three times the output cost. It is the single most common reason a pool that was going to last the month empties in nine days, and the interface will not stop you.

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